Season 3: Episode 11: The Books are Deep and Dark

Season Three: Episode Eleven: The Books are Dark & Deep

In this episode, hosts Mary, Jackie and Leigh talk about their current reads both dark and deep: “If We Were Villains” by M.L. Rio, “Educated” by Tara Westover, and “The Big Sleep” by Raymond Chandler.

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Books mentioned

If We Were Villains by M.L. Rio
*Mary’s read

Oliver Marks has just served ten years in jail–for a murder he may or may not have committed. On the day he’s released, he’s greeted by the man who put him in prison. Detective Colborne is retiring, but before he does, he wants to know what really happened a decade ago. As one of seven young actors studying Shakespeare at an elite arts college, Oliver and his friends play the same roles onstage and off: hero, villain, tyrant, temptress. But when the casting changes, and the secondary characters usurp the stars, the plays spill dangerously over into life, and one of them is found dead. The rest face their greatest acting challenge yet: convincing the police, and themselves, that they are blameless. Intelligent, thrilling, and richly detailed, If We Were Villains is a captivating story of the enduring power and passion of words.

Educated: a memoir by Tara Westover
*Jackie’s read

Tara Westover was seventeen the first time she set foot in a classroom. Born to survivalists in the mountains of Idaho, she prepared for the end of the world by stockpiling home-canned peaches and sleeping with her “head-for-the-hills bag.” In the summer she stewed herbs for her mother, a midwife and healer, and in the winter she salvaged in her father’s junkyard. Her father distrusted the medical establishment, so Tara never saw a doctor or nurse. Gashes and concussions, even burns from explosions, were all treated at home with herbalism. The family was so isolated from mainstream society that there was no one to ensure the children received an education, and no one to intervene when an older brother became violent. When another brother got himself into college and came back with news of the world beyond the mountain, Tara decided to try a new kind of life. She taught herself enough mathematics, grammar, and science to take the ACT and was admitted to Brigham Young University. There, she studied psychology, politics, philosophy, and history, learning for the first time about pivotal world events like the Holocaust and the Civil Rights Movement. Her quest for knowledge transformed her, taking her over oceans and across continents, to Harvard and to Cambridge University. Only then would she wonder if she’d traveled too far, if there was still a way home.

The Big Sleep by Raymond Chandler
*Leigh’s read

The Big Sleep: Set in southern California during the 1930s, detective Philip Marlowe takes an assignment that leads him on trail littered with blackmail, murder, and deception.

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